#21 Dr. Bridget Burns Breaking Boundaries: From Rural Struggles to Educational Triumphs

What happens when higher education is plagued by competition and a lack of collaboration? Ever wondered what would happen if higher education was more like a reality TV show? In this episode, we tackle the “Higher Ed Hunger Games,” where universities are too busy competing to work together. Dr. Bridget Burns, the CEO of the University Innovation Alliance (UIA) and the host of The Innovating Together Podcast, takes us from her small-town roots in rural America to the front lines of educational reform. She’s on a mission to turn these academic rivals into allies. Bridget’s goal? To boost graduation and employment rates for low-income students by transforming higher education into a more cooperative and innovative field. Forget the drama, we’re talking real change here—no politics is needed, just good old-fashioned teamwork that is centered on humanity. Episode Breakdown: 00:35—Introduction: Rundown of today's episode 03:20—Overcoming Adversity: Bridget's Journey from Isolation to Empowerment “I grew up in a cul de sac of racism, homophobia, misogyny—very rural America—and getting out was super important.” 06:33—Problem in Universities: Unveiling the Diffusion of Innovation Problem “We don’t know if what we’re doing is any good, or how to scale it.” 10:59—Higher Ed Hunger Games: Tackling the Cutthroat Competition "Higher education is highly competitive, hierarchical, set up to pit you against others, which leaves very little space to share about shared problems." 16:03—Real Change or Just for Show? Scouting for True Innovators in Academia "We need to figure out who else is a worker bee, who's interested in doing the really hard stuff and not just drawn to the image." 18:48—Who Actually Likes Change? Spoiler: No One “Everyone who says they like change is a liar. You only like change that is your idea and that you actively participate in creating.” 30:07—Mending Hearts in the Office: When Leaders Turn into Heartbreakers "There are a lot of people walking around with broken hearts because they’ve had a leader who’s betrayed them." 33:39—The AI Rat Race: Why Can’t We All Just Get Along? "This natural tendency to compete with each other. There’s like an arms race and that’s what’s happening with AI.” 38:41—From Cap and Gown to Capable and Grown: Reinventing the Grad-to-Gig Highway "There should be coaches for faculty to embed career readiness into every single classroom, starting from the first class a student takes." Connect with Us: Host: Vince Chan | Guest: Bridget Burns ______________________ Chief Change Officer: Make Change Ambitiously. Experiential Human Intelligence for Growth Progressives Global Top 3% Podcast on Listen Notes World's #1 Career Podcast on Apple Top 1: US, CA, MX, IE, HU, AT, CH, FI 1.8 Million+ Downloads 50+ Countries --Chief Change Officer-- Change Ambitiously. Outgrow Yourself. Open a World of Expansive Human Intelligence for Transformation Gurus, Black Sheep, Unsung Visionaries & Bold Hearts. EdTech Leadership Awards 2025 Finalist. 20 Million+ All-Time Downloads. 80+ Countries Reached Daily. Global Top 1% Podcast. Top 5 US Business. Top 1 US Careers. >>>180,000+ are outgrowing. Act Today.<<< See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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