#129 Iterating Data Governance for Data Mesh: Lessons Learned from 'The Data Governance Coach' - Interview w/ Nicola Askham

Sign up for Data Mesh Understanding's free roundtable and introduction programs here: https://landing.datameshunderstanding.com/Please Rate and Review us on your podcast app of choice!If you want to be a guest or give feedback (suggestions for topics, comments, etc.), please see hereEpisode list and links to all available episode transcripts here.Provided as a free resource by Data Mesh Understanding / Scott Hirleman. Get in touch with Scott on LinkedIn if you want to chat data mesh.Transcript for this episode (link) provided by Starburst. See their Data Mesh Summit recordings here and their great data mesh resource center here. You can download their Data Mesh for Dummies e-book (info gated) here.Nicola's website: https://www.nicolaaskham.com/The Data Governance Podcast: https://www.nicolaaskham.com/podcastNicola's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolaaskham/In this episode, Scott interviewed Nicola Askham, a data governance consultant known simply as The Data Governance Coach and host of The Data Governance Podcast.Some key takeaways/thoughts from Nicola's point of view:The key point of data governance: ensure the data we use is the right data for the right people to better address business challenges. Everything you do with governance should circle back to that.In doing data governance right, you need to set yourself up to take in feedback and iterate. You absolutely won't get everything right upfront. It's crucial to set expectations that your data governance approach will evolve as you learn more.If you see data mesh as being about making better data more accessible to your current data consumers, that's a very big opportunity wasted. Aim to significantly expand your pool of data citizens. Not everyone should be a data scientist but data should play a role in much more people's jobs.To get going in data mesh, you need to get your data governance to "good enough" and start moving forward. Think about what you need - is it the very complicated standard to last the next decade or is it about getting people to understand and trust the data they can now access? Probably the second...To drive buy-in for data governance, you should tailor your message to the...

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