B.J. Novak and Dev Flaherty, The List App Co-Founders; iPad Pro

The List App co-founders B.J. Novak and Dev Flaherty talk about their new mobile-social app for making lists and how tech is changing the entertainment world. Later, Lauren Goode joins Kara to talk about Apple's new iPad Pro and whether it's worth the upgrade.

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Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.