David Ignatius on his new spy thriller ‘The Tao of Deception’

Richard Haass, the Council on Foreign Relations president emeritus, interviews The Post’s David Ignatius about his new spy series, “The Tao of Deception,” published by The Post’s Opinions section, and about how history and current affairs have shaped his fiction. Conversation recorded on Thursday, July 6, 2023.

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