Today, in the Beyond The Chameleon Podcast, Ella talks to Akin Akinsiku, a Bafta award-winning director at Five Apples and The Department of Image Creative Studio. They talked about sensitive, and vital topics regarding inclusivity, racism, politics, and privilege. Akin on Instagram: @iamakinsiku & @thedepartmentofimage Ella’s also on there now: @ella.jarmanpinto For more info about working with Ella: ellajarman-pinto.co.uk Support the podcast: buymeacoffee.com/ellajarmanpinto