Black reality in a world of fantasy

Why build a fantasy world that still has racism? B.A. Parker moderates a discussion on Black science fiction and fantasy with authors Tochi Onyebuchi and Leslye Penelope at the National Book Festival.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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