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Cheryl Heller

In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Cheryl Heller discusses innovation, her new MFA program at SVA and why the word ‘brand’ is like leather pants.

Om Podcasten

Design Matters with Debbie Millman is one of the world’s very first podcasts. Broadcasting independently for over 15 years, the show is about how incredibly creative people design the arc of their lives. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.