Cameron Koczon, Partner at Fictive Kin

In this episode Liam speaks with Cameron Koczon, a Partner at Fictive Kin, a New York-based design and engineering studio whose unique approach to product development starts with “a Seinfeld” - an app that does nothing. In the interview, Liam and Cameron explore what it means to own content online, the difficulties of learning product design, and how designers can change the world by focusing on the impact of their work. Show notes 👉 https://design.google/podcasts

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Design Notes is a podcast about creative work and what it teaches us, hosted by Google's Liam Spradlin. Each episode we talk with people from unique creative fields to discover what inspires and unites us in our practice. Find episodes on your favorite platform: pod.link/designnotes