DHUnplugged #747: Bluffing and Pissing Matches

Tariffs are killing markets. A glimpse int what happens when we take a difference course Markets making some of the wort moves in decades Billionaires - all in on Trump lost billions... WAIT !!!!!! Maybe a 90-day pause on Tariffs now...Or Not... More finesse, less sledge hammer? PLUS we are now on Spotify and Amazon Music/Podcasts! Check this out and find out more at: http://www.interactivebrokers.com Click HERE for Show Notes and Links DHUnplugged is now streaming live - with listener chat. Click on link on the right sidebar. Love the Show? Then how about a Donation? Follow John C. Dvorak on Twitter Follow Andrew Horowitz on Twitter  Warm-Up - Markets making some of the worst moves in decades - Billionaires - all in on Trump lost billions... - WAIT !!!!!! Maybe a 90-day pause on Tariffs now...Or Not... - More finesse, less sledge hammer? Markets - Key Reversal Indicator - 1st Green cluster bottom on Monday.. Oversold? - Stock markets slammed - President Trump discussing stocks - Economic Pissing Match - Even more tariffs, or bluffs - VIX HITS 60! -- A Quick Poem - Green Eggs and Navarro --- One of the gents that responded to Vietnam's desire to have zero tariffs as "not enough" DAX on Monday and other Markets - Opened up down 10% - clawed back a bunch by end of the day - European stocks down 1.5% YTD 2024 - US Stock bearing the brunt of the move - Hong Kong (after being closed Friday) - closed Monday DOWN 13%! - Monday in Japan, Markets halted, futures trading suspended as Nikkei and Topix plunge more than 5% --- Follow up - then up 6% the next day - Monday YTD US Markets: Heads Up - Just in... - Tuesday at 12:30PM - 'White House Press Secretary says 104% additional tariffs went into effect at noon eastern time because China has not removed it's retaliation. The 104% additional tariff will be collected starting tomorrow April 9th'  -Markets were trying to right themselves - up big to start the day - then this headline.... - What if  - China comes back at 200%? More: - Tuesday afternoon : White House Secretary Karoline Leavitt answers questions on trade at briefing: President Trump not considering delay in tariffs that are due to go into effect tomorrow at 12:01 AM - Where is the negotiation? Seems like a pissing match or bluff with unlimited funds. If you are interested - Rand Paul making all sorts of sense this morning - Trades are win-win. Trade does not mean that one side has to win and one lose. - https://www.cnbc.com/video/2025/04/08/sen-rand-paul-on-trump-tariffs-trade-is-an-integral-part-of-capitalism.html Stupid - Taiwan's top financial regulator said on Sunday it will impose temporary curbs on short-selling of shares to help deal with potential market turmoil from U.S. President Donald Trump's new import tariffs, and will take other steps as needed. - Taiwan's Financial Supervisory Commission said in a statement it would limit the number of shares that can be sold short and raise the minimum short-selling margin ratio to 130% from 90%, starting from Monday and lasting until Friday. - We have seen how this plays out in the past. More references to bluffing - "I think it was a big mistake, this Chinese escalation, because they're playing with a pair of twos," Bessent said during an interview on CNBC's "Squawk Box." "What do we lose by the Chinese raising tariffs on us? We export one-fifth to them of what they export to us, so that is a losing hand for them." VIX - Hits 60 on Monday - then backs off to 45 - Not often we see a run like that. - Still at 45 shows big concerned about near-term volatility. --- S&P 500 top to bottom 7% move today - VIX was at 37 - back to 52 BREAK - IBKR Billionaires losing $$ - Do we feel bad? - Sample of losses on Liberation Day - Zuck lost $18B - Bezos lost $15B What? - Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says Americans looking to retire aren’t concerned about day...

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