Episode 17 | Mamma Andersson and Jockum Nordström

A rare conversation between artists who have stayed together for over three decades. The Swedish artist Karin “Mamma” Andersson and her husband Jockum Nordström’s story—of two young artists leaning on each other as their family grew; of uncertainty and insecurity and figuring out how to be different but together; of the pleasure of getting completely lost in one’s work—feels especially potent in these uncertain times. Andersson’s recent exhibition at David Zwirner’s New York gallery, The Lost Paradise, was cut short due to the escalating spread of COVID-19, but you can explore the show here.

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