Broke Presidents, Big Mistakes: Real Money Lessons from the White House (with Megan Gorman)

Money is the great equalizer—even for U.S. presidents. In this episode, bestselling author and financial expert Megan Gorman joins me to reveal the surprising, messy, and totally relatable financial stories of America’s commanders-in-chief. Shannah and Morgan dig into how student debt, budgeting failures, and quiet financial panic have shaped the men who shaped the country. And trust me—these aren’t the stories you learned in history class. From Thomas Jefferson’s spending addiction to why Herbert Hoover might be your new financial role model, we uncover the real money lessons hiding behind the White House curtains. Whether you’re in debt, rebuilding, or just trying to get a grip on your finances, this episode will leave you feeling a little less alone—and a lot more empowered. What We Cover: Why money worries don’t stop at the Oval Office Which presidents were surprisingly bad with money (and who got it right) The role women played in financial decision-making behind the scenes What presidential money mess-ups can teach us about resilience and leadership Why financial literacy should be considered a leadership skill How student loans haunt even the most powerful And the budgeting habits worth stealing from history About Megan Gorman: Megan Gorman is the author of All the Presidents’ Money, a fascinating dive into how U.S. presidents handled their personal finances—and what it reveals about power, failure, and money myths. She’s also a financial strategist, speaker, and contributor to major outlets like Forbes and The Wall Street Journal. Grab the Book: You can find All the Presidents’ Money by Megan Gorman everywhere books are sold. Links & Resources: Megan’s Website: megangorman.com Get the Book:  All the Presidents' Money simonandschuster.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Ever wake up at 3 a.m. in a full-blown panic, wondering if you’ll ever have “enough” money? Maybe you’re making more than ever, but somehow, the worry never goes away. You stress over every purchase, second-guess every money move, and still feel like you’re one wrong decision away from losing it all. Here’s the truth: It’s not just about the dollars—it’s about what’s happening in your head. Welcome to Everyone’s Talkin’ Money, the podcast that finally tells it like it is: your emotions, thoughts, and habits around money are what’s keeping you stuck— not just your paycheck. Hosted by Shannah Game and Shari Rash, money experts who want to help you ditch shame, rewrite the rules, and help you feel powerful with your finances. Don't worry, this show isn’t another snooze-fest finance podcast. We're here to help you unf*ck your finances and finally build wealth in a way that actually feels good. If you’re tired of finance bros yelling at you for buying a damn latte and sick of money advice that doesn’t fit your life, hit subscribe. It’s time to unravel your money mess, rewrite your story, and start building wealth—on your terms.