Debt Detox: Why Paying Off Debt Doesn’t Always Feel Like Freedom – Insights from Experian’s Rod Griffin

I’m joined by Rod Griffin, Senior Director of Public Education and Advocacy at Experian, to unpack some surprising insights from their latest survey on paying off debt. You’d think paying down debt would instantly feel like a weight lifted – but for many, it’s not that simple. Rod shares why some people don’t feel that immediate impact and what you can do to make the most of your financial progress. In this episode we discuss:  The unexpected emotional disconnect some people experience after paying off debt. Why a three-month period may be key to fully feeling the benefits of being debt-free. How mindset shifts – not just willpower – are essential for staying out of debt. Why having cash on hand might not prevent people from taking on more debt. How social media can fuel unnecessary spending and financial pressure. The concept of quiet debt and why so many people struggle to talk about it. How open conversations about money can alleviate shame and guilt. The critical difference between credit and debt – and why that distinction matters. You’ll walk away knowing: Paying off debt can have emotional benefits, but not everyone feels a significant change immediately. A three-month period is often needed to fully feel the impact of paying off debt. Mindset shifts are crucial for staying out of debt; willpower alone isn't enough. Having cash on hand may not prevent people from taking on debt. Social media can create pressure to keep up with others, leading to unnecessary spending. Finding personal anchors and understanding true needs can help manage debt. People are looking for ways to both reduce expenses and increase income to manage debt. Quiet debt refers to hidden financial struggles that people often don't discuss. Shame around money is common, but open conversations can relieve that pressure. Credit and debt are different; understanding this can help manage finances better. Follow the show so you never miss an episode, and keep the conversation going on Instagram @everyonestalkinmoney. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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