Out of Office | Two best friends talk about their road to retirement and the sweet life once they get there

Julie and Tammy have been best friends ever since meeting on a moonlit bike ride. They’ve stood by each other through marriage, divorce, career changes, personal loss, and now…retirement. Hear how their financial mindsets have shifted over the years and the impact “the ‘Rona” has on their retirement plans and perspectives. Also, get advice from Patrick Murphy, CEO of John Hancock Retirement, on the role flexibility plays in planning for retirement.

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Money intersects with and impacts nearly all our relationships and experiences, but discussing it has always been considered taboo. We think it should be celebrated. Hosted by Claire Wasserman, writer and financial advocate, Friends Who Talk About Money brings friends, families and couples together to talk about an element of their relationship that they might otherwise avoid: money. In each episode, Claire will also interview subject matter experts to offer insights based on the conversation and help listeners navigate similar situations in their own lives.