Davos 2025: Changing their minds on Trump — Anthony Scaramucci and Niall Ferguson

President Trump’s first 24 hours in the White House have certainly been the talking point here in Davos, as business leaders and politicians digest what the new era means for them and the rest of the world. Continuing Power Play's daily coverage from the World Economic Forum in Davos, host Anne McElvoy talks to two figures who know how the President operates and who have changed their minds about him. Anthony Scaramucci was briefly the White House’s communications director in Donald Trump’s first administration before going on to campaign against him. Later, she talks to historian Niall Ferguson, senior fellow at Stanford and Harvard Universities and an authority on American and European political history. Previously a critic, he argues that Trump's second term ambitions should be taken seriously. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Power Play is POLITICO's new weekly transatlantic podcast hosted by renowned British journalist Anne McElvoy. It takes listeners inside the minds of those who wield power to better understand the choices they face. The show features guests at the top of their fields in government, business, civil society and more — accompanied by the expert analysis of journalists across POLITICO's newsrooms globally, giving listeners the inside take on the most significant issues raised by the guest, as well as the implications. Read our show notes here: https://www.politico.eu/power-play-podcast/