Virtually chatting with Greg Chasson and Sam Wainman

Heather and Dave talk to Greg Chasson and Sam Wainman who are looking at the uses of virtual reality in working with hoarding behaviour. What they have found works, and what they see as being a way forward with the technology. We hope you find the podcast interesting and useful. If you have any questions you can write to

Om Podcasten

In this podcast Hoarding Stuff, decluttering and organisational expert Heather Matuozzo (director of Clouds End CIC) talks with Dave Woods about clutter, resilience and decision making in life. The aim of these podcasts will be to investigate and probe the challenges and even joys that someone who is classed as a "hoarder" goes through. With knowledge based on the combination of a professional and a service user, the hope is to come to a more balanced understanding of the conditions involved.