Episode 118 Take Two: Tough Conversations with Friends with Stephanie Thole

Engaging conversations on race or sexuality is a hard, holy task. As Christians, we don’t always do it well, even if our hearts are in the right place. Are these conversations the same? How are they different? Can we advocate justice and unity without endorsing what is not God’s best? And how do we do this with our friends? Stephanie Thole entered into this conversation with extraordinary grace and kindness, and we are thrilled to listen in again. I Highlights I “We were one of the few black families. I remember always being so attracted to all of these white boys. In my mind, I was like, ‘I gotta get rid of this…’ I understood at a very early age that that was not allowed.” —Stephanie Thole “I was very much aware at how different I was. That I was ‘other.’” —Stephanie Thole “A lot of us have made mistakes, have had hard conversations, have offended the wrong person, and it’s been a painful, awkward experience. Don’t let that stop you. Keep walking.” —Stephanie Thole I Do the Next Thing I For more on this conversation, check out our friends Daniel Hill and Rebecca McLaughlin! They lend their voices well to these issues. - *The Secular Creed* by Rebecca McLaughlin: https://www.amazon.com/Secular-Creed-Engaging-Contemporary-Claims/dp/0999284304 - *White Lies* by Daniel Hill: https://www.amazon.com/White-Lies-Expose-Resist-Systems/dp/0310358515 You can also listen to our interview with Rebecca McLaughlin here! https://lauriekrieg.com/podcast/3619/ Have you seen our new favorite Bible yet? Check it out here! https://csbholylandillustratedbible.com Follow Laurie on Instagram for more ministry updates! https://www.instagram.com/laurie_krieg/?hl=en

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The purpose of the Hole in My Heart Podcast is to talk about how the gospel is good news for everyone every day. How do they do that? The host, teacher, and author, Laurie Krieg, and her husband and licensed-therapist, Matt Krieg, partner up with Producer Steve, radio personality and all-around deep guy, to engage challenging topics such as sexuality, addiction, trauma, and anxiety. The trio applies a historically biblical sexual ethic to all they talk about, and ensure the focus of the conversation always circles back to the hope-filled good news of the gospel. To watch a video version of this podcast visit https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6O4AmkXQz9d5ydlR2FOWWV2ojjaiW8mP To learn more about Laurie and Matt Krieg visit www.lauriekrieg.com.