Episode 91 Take Two: Broken + Beloved Pastors with Ben and Lauren Schulke

We are thrilled to be revisiting the Broken and Beloved Pastors series! In the next three episodes, we’ll hear the stories of three pastors who are, like all of us, “more loved than we can imagine and more sinful than we believe.” What happens when a pastor wrestles with gender dysphoria? What happens when the same pastor is called to bring that wrestling into the light, in his marriage and with his community? What happens to his ministry? To his marriage? To his identity? Ben and Lauren Schulke answer these questions and more as they recount their story with us. We are honored to share it with you. I Highlights I “I very much tried to control the image of how people saw me. But . . . when people know me they can choose to love me and not some facsimile.” –Ben Schulke “I got to this place where I said, ‘I would rather be obedient to God than preserve something temporary–like my job.'”–Ben Schulke “Ben’s identity is not gender dysphoria. His identity is not whatever other sin or brokenness he is dealing with. That’s not who he is. He is a son of God, and he is loved by Him.” –Lauren Schulke I Do the Next Thing I For more on this conversation, check out Mark Yarhouse’s book Emerging Gender Identities! It’s exciting stuff. :D https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Gender-Identities-Understanding-Experiences/dp/1587434342 You can also check out Preston Sprinkle’s book on trans* issues, Embodied. https://www.amazon.com/Embodied-Transgender-Identities-Church-Bible/dp/0830781226 Have you seen our new favorite Bible yet? Check it out here! https://csbholylandillustratedbible.com Follow Laurie on Instagram for more ministry updates! https://www.instagram.com/laurie_krieg/?hl=en

Om Podcasten

The purpose of the Hole in My Heart Podcast is to talk about how the gospel is good news for everyone every day. How do they do that? The host, teacher, and author, Laurie Krieg, and her husband and licensed-therapist, Matt Krieg, partner up with Producer Steve, radio personality and all-around deep guy, to engage challenging topics such as sexuality, addiction, trauma, and anxiety. The trio applies a historically biblical sexual ethic to all they talk about, and ensure the focus of the conversation always circles back to the hope-filled good news of the gospel. To watch a video version of this podcast visit https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6O4AmkXQz9d5ydlR2FOWWV2ojjaiW8mP To learn more about Laurie and Matt Krieg visit www.lauriekrieg.com.