"The Count" & Interview with Victims Family

This week, Michelle Ward covers a case that took the life of a young girl named Lisa Ann Mather. The killer known as “The Count” looked for young victims simply enjoying their nights out on the town in Los Angeles, CA. Michelle got the opportunity to speak with both Lisa Mather's aunt and sister, Nancy and Roz, to hear their side of the tragic story. Take a listen and hear more about the Lisa Mather case from first hand experiences with her actual family members.  Sponsors: Pretty Litter- Go to PrettyLitter.com/hownot to save 20% on your first order. Follow us at @hntrask on TikTok and @hownottoraiseaserialkiller on Instagram. Follow Michelle on Instagram and TikTok at @drmichelleward. Listen to Michelle’s guest appearance on Love Before 100 on the episode Serial Killers, Dating Apps, & Dolly Parton. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Om Podcasten

Ever wonder if your kids have it in them to be a killer? It's okay, we've all had the thought once or twice. And if you're willing to admit that, you'll love How Not to Raise a Serial Killer. On this podcast, criminal psychologist Dr. Michelle Ward digs into the childhoods of some of the most notorious criminals and killers in order to learn from them and prevent future tragedies. Dr. Ward will use her expertise to determine what went wrong with each killer (a brain injury, an undiagnosed illness, a specific trauma) with the help of a fellow mom/non-expert who can weigh in about their own taboo parenting fears. Because on our better days as parents, we want to know how to raise good humans. But on our worst days, we at least want to know that we're not raising a future serial killer.