Why Systems Thinkers are Better for the Planet, Stephen Lezak PhD Ep3

Why do some people seem to consider environmental issues deeply, while others glance over our greatest earthly challenges and seem to hardly care? Our capacity for a “systems thinking” mindset can help tell us to answer why. Today’s guest, research psychologist and geographer Stephan Lezak, conducted a study that measured people’s tendency towards systems thinking and how this correlated to their environmental values. He found that people who rank higher as systems thinkers substantially consider environmental issues to be more important. In this fascinating conversation, we discuss what it takes to see the grey areas and the vast interconnectedness in a complicated world, the mistakes we make in our reasoning, and how we can build a new generation of systems thinkers in schools and universities today. Sign up to join the live "Fitbit for the Planet" group calls at katiepatrick.com/fitbit. Follow Stephan Lezak Twitter @StephenLezak Follow Katie Patrick Get a copy of How to Save the World on Amazon katiepatrick.com Twitter @katiepatrick Instagram @katiepatrickhello LinkedIn Support the podcast Contribute a monthly donation at patreon.com/katiepatrick to help me continue to make these episodes possible. Thank you to Jordan, Nader, Mike, Gary, Alex, Ben, Dee, and Ian for contributing! Xx

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What *really* gets people to take action for the planet? Environmental engineer and designer, Katie Patrick, takes you on a wild intellectual journey into the heart of the environmental psyche, exploring the latest evidence-based behavioral science you can use to get more people to adopt your climate or environmental campaign. Get Katie's secret climate action design tips and indie/hacker startup insights for making it happen at https://helloworlde.com/actiontips. Warning: For deep sustainability nerds only 🤓🌏.