Alex speaks with entrepreneur Lesley Pennington, founder of BEMZ, and now Kinship Collective @kinship.stories which launched this September! Our talk gives the entrepreneurial story and learnings of Lesleys, from her life at Apple in the early 90s, to the importance of her work now of lifting up women, and female artisans in the textile industry. This episode was recorded in June, when the pandemic was spreading, and the protests of George Floyd in the US were reverberating around the world. We are just very happy to be back with Hyper Talks after a few months of uncertainty. With a big thanks to Beppo Studio for making these recordings possible. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.