Vanita Daniels (director, Rise Up Against Gender Based Violence) joined me to discuss the problem of/with masculinities: a) Are there any "good men" or are allies in the fight for gender-justice also problematic? b) What are differences (if any) between men across class, geography and other markers when it comes to masculinties? How do our toxicities play out depending on various social facts about us? c) Should men get any kind of amnesty for truth-telling or is the idea of trading justice for a possible pathway to safety inherently problematic and a non-starter? d) Is there ANYTHING positive about masculinity? e) Could we imagine a world in which gender is eliminated in our language, and almost entirely de-emphasised in our relations with one another? Have a listen.