Switching positions with Kaia Gerber

It’s 11:11 p.m. (make a wish!) and Owen is joined by literal angel Kaia Gerber in her stunning DÔEN x Library Science nightgown (so on brand!). Owen and Kaia talk about the time they went to the Sweat Tour together—where they were each other’s boyfriends for the night. They also discuss their TikTok and Instagram algorithms, and Owen learns that Kaia is not on BookTok but instead ExorcismTok (??)! Kaia then tries to help Owen find the perfect book to read before they play a word game that puts their connection to the test. Will Kaia finally convince Owen to read a book? Definitely not but you should watch the episode!

Om Podcasten

Comedian Owen Thiele is an admirably bad sleeper - and while he’s up basically every hour of the night, he’s obsessing over how to become a household name. He might be an undiagnosed insomniac but he’s a self-diagnosed narcissist. Melatonin has failed him, so he’s turned to podcasting in the wee hours of the night. If he’s not going to get any rest, he might as well solve humanity’s oldest question: how the **** do I become famous? Follow Owen each week on a new adventure as he attempts (and sometimes succeeds!) to gain notoriety, in the way only Owen can – with candor, laugh-out-loud humor, and biting self-awareness. Hopefully, he doesn’t fall asleep first…