Winning with zero-click marketing starts with customer empathy

Episode web page: https://bit.ly/4lhHPCW ----------------------- Got a question? Want to recommend a guest? Or do you want to tell me how the show can be better?  Send me a voice message via email at podcast@usertesting.com ----------------------- In this episode of Insights Unlocked, Rand Fishkin, co-founder of SparkToro and marketing industry icon, joins hosts Mike McDowell and Nathan Isaacs to unpack one of the most disruptive shifts in digital marketing today: the death of attribution. Rand explains how platforms like Google, Facebook, and Reddit are cutting off referral data and turning into "walled gardens," effectively ending marketers' ability to track where traffic and conversions truly originate. This change calls for a radical new playbook—one that trades attribution modeling for brand lift, and prioritizes native content that meets audiences where they are. What you'll learn in this episode: Why attribution modeling no longer works—and what to focus on instead The rise of zero-click marketing and how to succeed with it How brands can build influence in a closed-platform world The role of audience intelligence tools like SparkToro in top-of-funnel strategy Why empathy and behavior observation are more powerful than ever for product and marketing decisions How customer insights led to SparkToro’s recent product relaunch—and a major growth rebound Resources & Links: SparkToro: https://sparktoro.com/ Rand on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randfishkin/ Snackbar Studio: https://snackbarstudio.com/ Mike on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mmcdowell1/ Mike’s YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@mikedropvideos Learn more about Insights Unlocked: https://www.usertesting.com/podcast

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What does it take to create experiences customers love, craft campaigns that captivate, and drive measurable results? Insights Unlocked features candid conversations with the builders, creators, and innovators driving some of the world’s most impactful digital transformations. Tailored for marketing, product, UX and CX leaders, each episode delivers actionable insights to help you create customer-first strategies and stay ahead in today’s competitive landscape. Each episode is about 30 minutes long. From optimizing product launches to leveraging AI for smarter workflows, Insights Unlocked is your go-to resource for designing experiences that resonate, drive loyalty, and achieve business results. Guests include influential leaders like Brian Solis, April Dunford, Kate Towsey, Jacob Nielsen, Teresa Torres, and Judd Antin among others, offering their expertise in CX, UX, and innovation. The podcast also highlights strategies and success stories from leading brands such as Verizon, Signet Jewelers, Figma, Microsoft, Tesco Bank, and more. UserTesting leaders and industry experts join as guest hosts, alongside show producer Nathan Isaacs, award-winning journalist and Senior Manager of Content Production at UserTesting. Brought to you by UserTesting, the leader in human insights and proactive customer experience strategies, Insights Unlocked empowers CMOs and marketing teams to craft experiences that drive growth, loyalty, and impact. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Show notes, curated clips and more at usertesting.com/podcast.