67: Let’s talk about Innovation (with Jason Feifer)

Another week, another Jake-less episode. In this one, Jonathan interviews [Jason Feifer](https://medium.com/u/3fb04014d28c), Editor in Chief at [Entrepreneur Magazine](https://medium.com/u/35c764264de6). Jason also has 2 great podcasts: [Pessimist Archive](https://www.jasonfeifer.com/pessimists-archive), [Problem Solvers](https://www.jasonfeifer.com/problem-solvers). And he's written for a bunch of famous publications. Aaaand he's also written a novel, [*Mr. Nice Guy*](https://www.jasonfeifer.com/novel). Jonathan and Jason discuss entrepreneurship, striving for perfectionism (as in you shouldn't!), and some great advice! **Links** [jasonfeifer.com](https://www.jasonfeifer.com/) [Jason on Twitter](https://twitter.com/heyfeifer) [Jason on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/heyfeifer/) [Jason's writing on Entrepreneur Mag](https://www.entrepreneur.com/author/jason-feifer) [Pessimist Archive Podcast](https://www.jasonfeifer.com/pessimists-archive) [Problem Solvers Podcast](https://www.jasonfeifer.com/problem-solvers) [*Mr. Nice Guy*](https://www.jasonfeifer.com/novel) [Tim Ferriss](https://tim.blog/)  [Huge Inc](https://www.hugeinc.com/) [4 Hour Workweek on Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/4-Hour-Work-Week-Escape-Anywhere/dp/0091929113/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=) [The New Yorker](https://www.newyorker.com/) [This American Life](https://www.thisamericanlife.org/) [Serial podcast](https://serialpodcast.org/) [Descript](https://www.descript.com/) [Andrew Mason on Twitter](https://twitter.com/andrewmason) [Buy Sprint!](https://www.thesprintbook.com/buy/) 📘🏃‍♀️ [Buy Make Time!](https://maketimebook.com/buy/) 📗⏰ [**AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass**:](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass)[ajsmart.com/masterclass](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass) 🥇😯 **Your Hosts:** * Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: [@jakek](https://twitter.com/jakek) * Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: [@jicecream](https://www.instagram.com/jicecream/) * Write into the podcast: [pbc@ajsmart.com](mailto:pbc@ajsmart.com) * Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: [PodcastTech.com](https://PodcastTech.com) * Show notes by [@amrkhalifeh](https://www.instagram.com/amrkhalifeh/) * [Follow the podcast on Medium](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial)

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Jake and Jonathan (formally Product Breakfast Club) is a behind the scenes look at how some of the best companies in the world design their products. Jake Knapp, NY Times best-selling author of "Sprint", has helped companies like Slack, Nest and 23andMe build successful products. Jonathan Courtney, co-founder of AJ&Smart, has worked with companies like RedBull, eBay and the United Nations, to help them build better products faster. In this new, exciting podcast, the two of them have teamed up to discuss things like product design, innovation and productivity.