Interview: Patti LuPone (Beau is Afraid) and Jason Segel (Shrinking)

Broadway icon Patti LuPone is less interested in the stage than the screen these days— and in Ari Aster's new film Beau Is Afraid, she tells Richard Lawson, she found the mammoth challenge she was looking for. And for Jason Segel, who is currently on strike alongside the rest of the WGA, it's a little tricky to talk about the Apple series he co-created, Shrinking, as he tells Rebecca Ford. But his experience on that show as an actor, including watching Harrison Ford improvise, makes for some excellent storytelling all the same. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram @vfawardsinsider Email us at littlegoldmen@vf.com Follow our hosts: @kateyrich, @rilaws, @beccamford, @davidcanfield97  Our editor and producer is Brett Fuchs.

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