Interview: Paul Dano (The Fabelmans) and James Gray (Armageddon Time)

Two conversations with people from films that dive deep into family and memory— what could be more perfect for Thanksgiving week? First, David Canfield talks to Paul Dano, who took on the towering challenge of playing Steven Spielberg's father in The Fabelmans. Then Rebeca Ford talks to James Gray, who mined his own childhood for the 1980-set "ghost story" Armageddon Time.  Email us at littlegoldmen@vf.com Find Little Gold Men on Twitter: @HWD  Follow our hosts: @kateyrich, @rilaws, @beccamford, @davidcanfield97  Our editor and producer is Brett Fuchs.

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