S4 E26 “The Bad Art Friend” saga and our zeitgeist

[Episode theme]Who's the real bad art friend? Well, it depends on who you ask. Our hosts each share their own perspectives on the hottest Internet discourse and dive into a myriad of related topics.  [Timecode]2:57 what is the NYT Magazine’s “Who is the Bad Art Friend” really about6:30 Diaodiao’s perspective: it’s about the power dynamics behind an act of kindness11:00 Afra’s perspective: the story highlights the gap between the societal impact and the literary nature of a work of fiction; Sonya Larson’s “The Kindest” portrays highly imperfect characters’ stories. 14:00 Ina's perspective: her bias against Dawn (a white female author) influenced her viewpoint and reading experience, but ultimately agrees donating a kidney is the ultimate act of kindness-18:00 Juan’s perspective: this is a story about beating someone when they’re already down, stresses Dawn’s identity as a yet-to-be-published author and Larson’s identity as a writer; Larson’s prejudice and othering of Dawn shouldn’t be excused by the reason of creating a work of art26:30 Additional context behind live donors for donating organs and how this context changes our thoughts33:30 In the ultra-connected social media environment of today, what privileges are afforded to those who are kind? Is it bad to doubt the motive behind an act of kindness? Perhaps. 35:33 How did this story become a story about “two female authors pitting themselves against each other”? How are “Cat Fights” and “mean girls” influencing our behavior and becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy? How are female authors repressed in the publishing and writing world? 46:00 POCs being hyper-aware of white feminism and its faults 49:00 The context around American society and politics that the Chinese Internet discourse missed 1:02:00 - An original song! Bonus easter egg!Original song by our editor Joshua Ogden-Davis Well I gave away my kidney but my friends don’t even careI said I gave away my WHOLE kidney and my friends don’t seem to care an appropriate amountBut I know up in heaven White Jesus is saving me a chairWell I plagiarized a rando but she says she knows meWell I plagiarized this rando and she says she knows meBut she ain’t cool enough for the group chat so she ain’t get no apology[Hosts]Diaodiao, Ina, Afra, Juan[Audio editor]Joshua Ogden-Davis[Be our sponsor]Please consider supporting us on Patreon (in USD, suitable for listeners who live in the U.S.): https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs. Please consider supporting us on Patreon (in RMB):https://afdian.net/p/e0a54e82ebd111e9bd2d52540025c377【Business collab】Please reach out to us at loudmurmursfm@gmail.com for any business inquiries. 【Listen to LMM】Find Loud Murmurs in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review. RSS feed: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/258327.rss Itunes: https://apple.co/2VAVf0Z Google play: goo.gl/KjRYPN Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2IWNuRB Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

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