S4 E9 We talked to a therapist about “WandaVision”

“WandaVision” takes place after Thanos snapped his fingers and eliminated half of the people in the universe in Avengers: Infinity War. The show departs from the usual superhero Marvel movies in a number of significant ways: it’s a TV show, the main character is a woman, the heart of the story is about grieving, trauma and intimacy. Like people in the Marvel universe, we all collectively lived through a traumatic event on a global scale and are still far from being completely free from the influence of the pandemic. It’s been said that WandaVision is a pandemic parable. Barring from the typical third act CGI light beam fight in the sky, this story has a lot of elements we can all relate to: living in our TV, being stuck at home and isolated, processing waves of direct and indirect grief. So today, we invited an actual therapist to talk to us about WandaVision. Guest: Lola, she/her, licensed therapist based in Chicago. She founded a social-justice informed Fig Tree Counseling (figtreechi.com) in 2019. Warning: We spoiled this show, thoroughly, so know this before you listen. Thanks!  We Talked About:04:16 Why we love WandaVision, and why this is not your typical superhero story. 07:53 How does the show deal with the concept of “trauma”? How does Wanda try to regain control? How does the show visualize grief?12:00 How does the show portray the five stages of grief? 15:12 How does Wanda’s childhood trauma shape her as a character? Agatha — the unlicensed therapist. 19:39 How do we find power in grief? 21:03 Monica Rambeau and Wanda’s friendship 23:34 How should we understand the line “What is grief if not love persevering”? Is the goal of grieving to move on and to forget? 26:16 The moral questions of Wanda’s way of dealing with her personal grief 29:10 Hurt people hurt people. How do we avoid infecting others with our own emotional problems? 32:00 What is it like to lose your partner/spouse? How can therapy help? 35:50 WandaVision is a pandemic parable, so what can we learn from it? 42:00 How to take your first step with therapy? Links: ‘WandaVision,’ a sitcom sendup, was a pandemic parable, too‘WandaVision’ Lives Inside TV. Just Like We Do.Find Loud Murmurs in the iTunes podcast store, Google Play, Spotify, and wherever you listen to podcasts (e.g. Pocket Casts, Overcast)! Please subscribe, enjoy, and feel free to drop us a note and leave us a review. RSS feed: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/258327.rss Itunes: https://apple.co/2VAVf0Z Google play: goo.gl/KjRYPN Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2IWNuRB Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=544416&refid=stpr Pocket Cast: http://pca.st/nLid Overcast: https://bit.ly/2SL7MNJ Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs. Please reach out to us at loudmurmursfm@gmail.com for any business inquiries. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/loudmurmurs)

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Loud Murmurs is a Mandarin-Chinese podcast about American pop culture, brought to you by four bilingual and bi-cultural women in the U.S. and their friends. We discuss movies, TV, documentaries, and the social, political issues reflected on by a piece of pop culture work. Too often, race, gender and other political and cultural issues are the subtext in pop culture. We seek to make the subtext explicit, question it and challenge it. The show is now in its third season, updated biweekly. We have interviewed guests ranging from science fiction writers, comedians, to scholars and journalists. Our goal is to make the most thought-provoking Chinese podcast about American pop culture. 小声喧哗是一档以女性视角来观察和批判影视文本如何塑造世界的播客。《小声喧哗》Loud Murmurs, 是一档以女性视角来观察和批判影视文本如何塑造世界的播客。文化和审美的自觉认同从来都是隐含在创造者对世界的想象中,而这样的想象催生出许多充满偏见的创造动机。这样的创造动机渗透在我们日复一日热爱的欧美电影中,美剧里,渗透在我们对于事物的认知中。今天,我们想要去挑战它。紧跟影视热点和时事的同时,保持了双周频率的持续输出。在制作节目时,小声喧哗经常邀请学者和影评人参与我们的节目,使节目的观点更加多元化和专业。小声喧哗致力在中文世界,做最好的流行文化播客。