What would the world be like without artists?

Jess was a much bigger influence on my life than she realised. One of a group of art students that i met when i moved to London for my placement year in 1990. Jess is an artists that works with geometry and nature. Sustainability runs through her like "Blackpool" through a stick of rock. This is a rich conversation about the value of art in society, growing up in a slightly bohemian house in a normal street, and a tale of two fish pies. Utterly wonderful.

Om Podcasten

Podcast of Mark Shayler at Ape. Works with businesses to do things better and do better things. Founder of innovation and sustainability company, Ape. Founding partner of the Do Lectures and Green Lab. Author of Do Disrupt: Change the Status Quo or Become it.