Cliff Saron - Embracing Complexity

In this episode, Wendy speaks with neuroscientist and contemplative researcher Cliff Saron. Cliff is a pioneer in studying the effects of meditation on attention and emotion, and has been deeply embedded in the field of contemplative science since the earliest days. This conversation covers many topics, including: his winding path into contemplative research; drilling down and pulling back; conducting research with Tibetan monks in India; how brain signals can predict behavior, and implications for free will; the importance of context in meditation research; effects of intensive meditation on attention, markers of cellular aging, and purpose in life; community-engaged participatory research; communicating the nuance and uncertainty inherent in science; Ubuntu, and living into our interdependence. Full show notes and resources

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What is a mind? What are the mental patterns that shape our experience—how are those patterns created, maintained, and changed? How can contemplative practices like meditation help us work with our minds? And what are the potential benefits these practices for individuals and society? This inquiry can happen through many lenses. Conversations on this show integrate contemplative approaches with perspectives from psychology, philosophy, neuroscience, anthropology, religion, social science, art, activism, and lived experience. On Mind & Life, we investigate these complex questions with leading researchers, thinkers, and on-the-ground practitioners, moving us toward a deeper understanding of ourselves and our world. Hosted by Mind & Life Institute Science Director, Wendy Hasenkamp.