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Episode 8: Forgiveness featuring Sandy Hook Promise founder Nicole Hockley and Alice Johnson

We are taught from an early age the importance of saying you’re sorry, and forgiving those who have wronged you. But is there such thing as an unforgiveable act? And who does that impact more – the perpetrator, or the one wronged? In the final episode of the season, Stephanie speaks with Nicole Hockley, who lost her son at Sandy Hook and has since founded Sandy Hook Promise, and Alice Johnson, who served 20 years of a life sentence for a non-violent drug offense before Kim Kardashian worked to get her released. They talk about forgiveness, and whether it is a choice everyone can or should make. Learn more about your ad-choices at

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MSNBC anchor and NBC News Senior Business correspondent Stephanie Ruhle hosts compelling conversations for these culturally complicated times. From mental health and parenting, to a widening gender gap, and rampant misinformation on social media – we’re getting comfortable talking about the uncomfortable. And we’re doing it with help of experts and thought-provoking contributors to the opinion and analysis site NBC Think.