Episode 2 - WO2 Deborah Penny

In this episode James sits down with Warrant Officer Class 2 (WO2) Deborah Penny, who was born in 1966 in Karachi West, Pakistan and joined the army in September 1982. WO2 Penny came out to the army and her family and friends as Transgender in 2004, four years after the ban on LGBT+ soldiers serving had been lifted. In 2006, with the army's support, she was able to start the journey to transition which took until 2010. In 2012 she deployed to Afghanistan and became the first Transgender soldier on the front line. Following this she used her experiences to provide advice to the Chain of Command on Transgender issues and set up a network for women and LGBT+ personnel. Deborah talks about the difficult decisions she had to make whilst balancing her career with her gender identity, what the most common misconceptions are about transpeople and how she formed a lesbian motorcycle club.

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PASSING OUT: The Podcast is a series of conversations with currently serving and veteran soldiers from the LGBTQ+ community sharing their stories, experiences and life lessons from their time in the British Army. On the 21st anniversary of the lifting of the ban on LGBTQ+ soldiers serving in the British Military, host James Robert Moore discusses what it means to be out and queer in an environment that up until the year 2000 criminalised homosexuality. Passing Out the Podcast is not affiliated with the British Army or other Military organisation. Produced by Peter J Holland