Bon Iver Interview! How Justin Vernon Got Happy (It Took a Lot of Work)

A conversation with Bon Iver’s Justin Vernon about how the band’s surprise success led to unexpected opportunities, then emotional depletion, and now a new album of reinvention, “Sable, Fable.”

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