Journalist and documentary maker Christopher Rufo talks to Jonathan Kay about the ideology fuelling the violent protests in the Pacific Northwest

Christopher Rufo, Director of the Center on Wealth & Poverty at Discovery Institute, talks to Jonathan Kay about the ideology fuelling the violent protests in Seattle and Portland.

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