An episode with two Belgian cryptographers, Vincent Rijmen and Joan Daemen, the inventors of the AES block cipher. Co-hosted with Tal Rabin.
Originally invented as an art and science of secret writing, today, cryptography has evolved to much more than that. It is a deed of both makers and breakers and is used extensively by citizens, corporations, and in messaging applications, computer networks, and protocols. The real world cryptographers podcast captures the history of the field via stories.