Mic Drop: Anne Neuberger on AI: ‘We have to challenge ourselves to be first’

We sat down with former deputy national security advisor Anne Neuberger on the sidelines of the Munich Security Conference to talk about everything from Chinese AI startups like DeepSeek to the competition for the future world order.

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The podcast that tells true stories about the people making and breaking our digital world. We take listeners into the world of cyber and intelligence without all the techie jargon. Every Tuesday and Friday, former NPR investigations correspondent Dina Temple-Raston and the team draw back the curtain on ransomware attacks, mysterious hackers, and the people who are trying to stop them.