Episode 4: Conversation with Kathy Joyce

Kathy Joyce is one of my favorite writers. We used to be a couple and collaborated on the podcast: "I Tried Recording Myself All Day Every Day For 365 days But It Was Destroying All My Relationships So I Started a Daily Audio Journal Instead But That Was Even More Destructive." You can check out her writing at on substack.

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Conversations I Want To Have Before We Both Die Half the episodes are here for free. To hear every episode, you can subscribe at: patreon.com/cavehzahedi Conversations I Want To Have Before We Both Die was Produced by Maxwell di Paolo and Ross Burlingame Music is by Evan Ziporyn (@eziporyn on IG) Illustration by Spencer Hicks (@shpensherhicksh on IG)