80. Libby & Andy Drish: How to Transform Relationship Death into Lifelong Devotion

In this deeply intimate conversation, I sit down with Libby and Andy Drish, a couple who have mastered the delicate balance between devotion and freedom in their 15-year relationship. Starting young and admittedly anti-relationship, they've navigated through volatile beginnings to discover a level of harmony most couples never experience. What sets their journey apart is their extraordinary commitment to relationship mastery—they've dedicated years to studying with the world's most advanced relationship teachers, experimenting with cutting-edge frameworks, and developing their own maps for love's terrain. Their journey reveals how relationships evolve through distinct stages and how the thread of devotion can sustain you through the darkest moments when nothing else is working. Unlike most couples who rely on conventional wisdom, Andy and Libby have approached their relationship like relationship astronauts—venturing into uncharted territories, testing boundaries, and bringing back wisdom that few have access to.What You'll Learn:The three stages of relationship evolution: codependence, independence, and interdependenceHow to navigate "death portals" in your relationship where old dynamics must die for new ones to emergeThe Infinite Theory of Love - a powerful map for balancing freedom and safetyWhy devotion feels like death in the darkest times but becomes the most exquisite experience in the lightest timesHow to shift from exhausting stage two "processing" to the harmony and polarity of stage threeThe difference between conditional romantic love and unconditional loveWhy vulnerability and emotional expression are more effective than verbal negotiationThe immense power of their weekly "ritual" practice and how it can transform your relationshipIf you've ever felt lost in your relationship, questioning whether the struggles are worth it, or longing for a deeper connection that seems just out of reach, this episode offers a rare glimpse into what's possible. Andy and Libby share battle-tested wisdom from their 15-year experiment, revealing maps and frameworks they wish they'd had during their hardest moments. Their journey proves that with devotion as your North Star, you can create a relationship that continually evolves into something you wouldn't have believed possible.Tools/resources mentioned here:The Three Stages of Relationship- Inspired by David DeidaConnect with Libby and Andy:Website: https://www.theartoflove.com/Connect with Raj:Instagram: @raj_janaSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/22Hrw6VWfnUSI45lw8LJBPYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@raj_janaLegal Disclaimer: The information and opinions discussed in this podcast are for educational and entertainment purposes only. The host and guests are not medical or mental health professionals, and their advice should not be a substitute for seeking professional help. Any action taken based on the information presented is strictly at your own risk. The podcast host and their guests shall have neither liability nor responsibility to any person or entity with respect to any loss, damage, or injury caused or alleged to be caused directly or indirectly by information shared in this podcast. Consult your physician before making any changes to your mental health treatment or lifestyle. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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The Stay Grounded Podcast is your go-to resource for conversations that help you become the most grounded, authentic, and loving version of yourself that you can be. Each week, host Raj Jana -- co-founder of Liber8 -- uses his relentless curiosity to interview a diversity of guests who have mastered different concepts for living a life that’s true to them.With the help of Raj’s deep questions and his ability to distill complex subjects into digestible takeaways, regular listeners discover empowering perspectives around mindset, emotional well-being, and spirituality as well as tools and frameworks for developing the self-awareness needed to show up fully for the people and things that matter most in their lives. Our hope is that your mind can take a rest as your heart tunes into conversations that are designed to help you feel calm, uplifted, and loved. Each episode is designed to help you discover something new in yourself, offering messages that feel as if they were recorded just for you. You’ll feel like a fly on the wall as you witness honest and vulnerable conversations between friends that track the highs and lows experienced when you’re working to embody your true nature and purpose. No matter where you come from or what you’re going through, you’re not alone. This podcast is predicated on the idea that by authentically sharing our stories, we can inspire healing and insight for each other. In the words of the late Ram Dass, “We are all just walking each other home.”Welcome to the Stay Grounded family. For more information, head to www.rajjana.com/podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.