'Roll Up Your Sleeves, Girls’

Today, Cheryl calls up one of the most prolific writers of our generation, the environmentalist and octogenarian Margaret Atwood. Margaret shares how she’s spending her time in isolation, including sewing masks and fending off squirrels (“Day before yesterday, I climbed out on the roof because we had a squirrel problem,” she tells us). Cheryl asks Margaret whether she’s afraid for herself — and for the world — and the two reflect on how to stay hopeful. You can find Margaret's recommended reading list here.

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Cheryl Strayed, also known as Sugar, says writing taught her how to give advice. In this moment of uncertainty, she’s setting aside advice-giving in favor of wisdom-seeking and turning to the writers who have long inspired her for courage and insight.