E152: Saving the Good Ship Zion by Leaving It.
The story goes that anyone who leaves the Good Ship Zion comes back all wet and half drowned. But in this episode, Stephen Carter argues that this is short-sighted, and that a journey away from the ship may actually be the best way to save both yourself and the ship. https://sunstone.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/SLP-152.mp3