Episode 7: Flat Earth Exit the Matrix Expo

In this episode, I report back from my trip to the “Exit the Matrix” Flat Earth Expo in Las Vegas, where I gave a presentation, had a debate, and talked to a lot of Flat Earth believers. It was an experience that was unusual, revealing, and entertaining.   The flat Earth folk were, on the whole, very nice and fun to talk to. I came away with the sense that their lack of understanding was very genuine, that they were in many case not trolling. I also found that communication was possible. Of course, they are very resistant, and individuals vary, but people were not automatically rejecting what I said. I didn’t convert anyone that I know of, but I think I at least made them think about a few things. I will follow up with the people I met, and hope to have some on future podcasts. At 3:30 I mention that “IPS” uses the name “Tim Ozman” the same (phonetically) as the person I interviewed last week (“Tim Osman”). This is not the same person, just the same name (ironic use of the name of a CIA agent who supposedly pretended to be Osama bin Laden). * Exit the Matrix Expo Information: http://archive.is/3ETwh * “Mad” Mike Hughes – https://madmikehughes.com/ * Russell Dibird, Flat Earth Media Group http://www.femg.com/ * Shelley Lewis – Flat Earth Radio – http://ferlive.com/ * Chris Pontius (F.E. Models) – https://flatearthmodels.com * Nathan Thompson – https://www.facebook.com/groups/OfficialFlatEarthAndGlobeDiscussion/? * Mike, Exploring Again – http://exploringagain.com * IPS. – http://archive.is/hf5C5 * Brother Earnest – http://www.nasalies.org/

Om Podcasten

Tales from the Rabbit Hole is an interview-style podcast focusing on people whose lives have been affected by the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. Guests will include both former and current believers in a variety of conspiracy theories, as well as debunkers, skeptics, and the investigators of those theories. I’m Mick West, a debunker. I wrote the book Escaping the Rabbit Hole – How to Debunk Conspiracy Theories using Facts, Logic, and Respect. This book came from my experiences running Metabunk – a debunking forum. Over the years I realized simply presenting corrections to people is not enough. We need effective communication, and we can’t do that if we don’t listen to and talk with each other. I’m hoping this podcast will help bridge that gap.