Ep 20 – MI when working with people with psychosis

Ep 20 MI when working with people with psychosis  We hope you enjoy our latest episode where we welcome Dr. Rory Allott to the program to explore using MI when working with people with a diagnosis of psychosis. Rory is a Clinical Psychologist working part-time in the National Health Service in an Early Intervention Service working with young people (14-35) and their families. Over the last 20 years he has worked in a wide range of settings including a Diabetes resource centre, drugs services and a wide range of mental health services. Rory was a therapist and researcher on the MIDAS trial (Barrowclough et al., 2010), the largest ever randomised controlled trial of a psychological intervention (MICBT) for people experiencing psychosis and misusing substances. He teaches about supervision and motivational interviewing on the Clinical Psychology Doctoral programmes at the Universities of Manchester and Liverpool. Primarily a practitioner but with a strong interest in research, Rory has an International reputation for innovation in training and has been invited to deliver several Plenary sessions on Motivational Interviewing. He has several international publications, book chapters and conference presentations on the integration of MI and cognitive behavioural therapy.         0:00 – Opening/introduction         1:45 – Rory’s introduction and early MI story         4:30 – Overview of Rory’s work with people with psychosis         9:20 – Empathy: Experiencing, learning, and expressing       18:45 – Noticing the need to shift in conversation: “The helicopter view”       27:20 – Carl Rogers’ influence on working with people with psychosis       33:45 – Risks in connection       38:45 – Acceptance for those with “tenaciously held beliefs”       45:00 – Professional well-being       50:00 – The power of a “kind face”       55:00 – A need for patience       59:40 – Offering choice in mandated situations    1:02:00 – Challenges from auditory hallucinations    1:08:45 – “Not being the worst…”    1:11:40 – Role of medication    1:17:43 – End of recording Links and contact information: * Email: rory.allott@gmail.com * Website: https://roryallott.com/ * Short film produced by Rory and his colleagues: * #psychosisfilm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQxZCbZ97Vc * Paper mentioned during episode: * Moyers, T. B., & Miller, W. R. (2013). Is low therapist empathy toxic? Psychology of Addictive Behaviors, 27(3), 878–884. https://doi.org/10.1037/a0030274 For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: * ChangeTalking * Glenn Hinds *

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Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing podcast, hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice. Glenn Hinds is a registered counsellor living in Derry, N. Ireland. He worked as a drug therapist and senior social work practitioner in mental health and alcohol and drug services, from 1990 until 2008, when he created Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants (https://www.glennhinds.com) developing and delivering bespoke training workshops to health, social care, education, criminal justice and human resource practitioners and managers across the UK, Ireland and USA. He has been a member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2003 and has completed Motivational Interviewing Training Integrity (MITI) and Motivational Interviewing Supervisory Training (MIST) training and has written the Motivational Interviewing module for Ulster University Foundation Degree. Sebastian G. Kaplan, PhD, is an associate professor in the Departments of Psychiatry (Child and Adolescent Section) and Family and Community Medicine at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, NC, USA. Sebastian is a former special education teacher, who currently provides individual and family psychotherapy, primarily with adolescents and young adults, struggling with a variety of life challenges. Sebastian has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2008. He provides training and consultation in MI for a variety of regional and national audiences. Sebastian is a co-author of “Motivational Interviewing in Schools: Conversations to Improve Behavior and Learning.” (Guilford Press 2016). Sebastian is also a co-developer of “Motivational Interviewing with Adolescents: A Four-Video Series” (http://www.psychotherapy.net/video/mi-adolescents).