Ep 46 – Reducing Burnout and Compassion Fatigue

Reducing Burnout and Compassion Fatigue Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Kristin Dempsey and Ali Hall to the podcast to discuss reducing burnout and compassion fatigue Kristin Dempsey, EdD is a psychotherapist, counselor educator, and Motivational Interviewing Trainer working and living in the San Francisco Bay Area. Kristin has worked in community health settings for over 25 years and specializes in addiction, dual diagnosis, and trauma treatment. She also helps organizations implement motivational interviewing and other evidence based practices and assess organizational responsiveness to employee wellness and trauma informed care. Ali Hall is a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT), a MINT Certified Trainer, and an independent consultant and trainer. Ali currently serves on the MINT Board of Directors, focusing on professional skill development for MI practitioners and trainers. Ali served as a Lead Trainer for the International MINT Training for New Trainers (TNT) in Warsaw (2019), New Orleans (2018) and Berlin (2015). Ali facilitates Motivational Interviewing (MI) workshops for behavioral health providers, health care providers, wraparound providers, senior service providers, criminal justice professionals. psychologists, and psychiatrists, and provides training for trainers in evidence-based practices. Ali is the co-developer of the Motivational Interviewing Competency Assessment (MICA), a coding and coaching tool for MI skill improvement. She was a subject matter expert for the MI demonstration series “MI with Adolescents” produced by psychotherapy.net CLICK HERE  that includes MI with Adolescents: Core Concepts, MI in Juvenile Justice Settings, MI for Adolescent Health Behavior and MI for Adolescent Substance Use. Ali is also the co-author of the book Motivational Interviewing for Mental Health Clinicians: A Toolkit for Skill Development (2021). 0:00 – Opening/introduction  3:10 – Kristin and Ali’s early MI stories 8:45 – Kristin and Ali’s collaboration story; recent focus on structural issues in organizations that have worsened due to COVID and climate crises. 12:40 – Definitions: Burnout, compassion fatigue, secondary traumatic stress, and shared trauma 14:00 – Organizational responses to stress 16:00 – Why and how MI might be helpful for burnout 25:00 – MI as a bridge to positive organizational outcomes 31:30 – Why doing MI might be helpful for the practitioner 39:25 – Helping the helpers: Kristin leads a meditation 46:00 – Ali discusses the concept of a self-compassion break 47:45 – Other organizational strategies (e.g. diverse caseloads, offering breaks) 54:00 – What’s ahead for Kristin and Ali: De-Centering dominant cultures in educational materials, collaborations, environmentally conscious gardening, and long-distance swimming For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian Email: podcast@glennhinds.com Twitter: * ChangeTalking * Glenn Hinds * Sebastian Kaplan  For all previous episodes CLICK HERE We welcome all donations to support us GBP

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Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing podcast, hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice. Glenn Hinds is a registered counsellor living in Derry, N. Ireland. He worked as a drug therapist and senior social work practitioner in mental health and alcohol and drug services, from 1990 until 2008, when he created Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants (https://www.glennhinds.com) developing and delivering bespoke training workshops to health, social care, education, criminal justice and human resource practitioners and managers across the UK, Ireland and USA. He has been a member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2003 and has completed Motivational Interviewing Training Integrity (MITI) and Motivational Interviewing Supervisory Training (MIST) training and has written the Motivational Interviewing module for Ulster University Foundation Degree. Sebastian G. Kaplan, PhD, is an associate professor in the Departments of Psychiatry (Child and Adolescent Section) and Family and Community Medicine at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, NC, USA. Sebastian is a former special education teacher, who currently provides individual and family psychotherapy, primarily with adolescents and young adults, struggling with a variety of life challenges. Sebastian has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2008. He provides training and consultation in MI for a variety of regional and national audiences. Sebastian is a co-author of “Motivational Interviewing in Schools: Conversations to Improve Behavior and Learning.” (Guilford Press 2016). Sebastian is also a co-developer of “Motivational Interviewing with Adolescents: A Four-Video Series” (http://www.psychotherapy.net/video/mi-adolescents).