Ocean Wants: Conservation Libido, featuring Eva Hayward

The ocean refuses empathetic ethics based on sameness with us humans. What does the urge to save nature — in certain ways — reveal about us and our desire? In the fifth episode of Ocean Wants, our host, speculative writer Ingo Niermann talks to Eva Hayward, historian of science and faculty member of the Department of Gender and Women Studies at the University of Arizona. Ocean Wants is a series of ten podcasts that playfully explores how nonhumans could like our planet to be. Conceived and hosted by Ingo Niermann, Ocean Wants was commissioned to celebrate TBA21–Academy’s tenth Anniversary. Commissioned and produced by TBA21–Academy Conceived, hosted, and edited by Ingo Niermann Music composed and arranged by Ville Haimala Intro read by Joan Jonas Credits read by Staci Bu Shea Sound edited by Robin Michel Produced by Ingo Niermann and María Montero Sierra

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What can we ask the Ocean? In our sonic explorations, we dive deep into conversations about art, culture, the Ocean, equality, imagination and community, as well as music curated around the oceanic stories of our human and non-human collaborations. Created and curated by TBA21–Academy, a cultural organisation investigating environmental injustice through the lens of art, and its initiative Ocean Space, a new embassy for the Oceans situated in the Church of San Lorenzo, Venice.