Branding vs. Marketing: Why ROI Thinking Is Breaking Your Business

In this episode of Art of the Brand, Camille and Phillip break down one of the most misunderstood topics in business today: the difference between branding and marketing. If you've ever asked, “What’s the ROI on that?”—this episode is for you.We explore:Why branding is an investment, not an expenseThe ROI trap that’s hurting agencies, founders, and creators alikeHow to build a brand people trust (without playing the short game)Why posting for 8 months with no results is the actual path to successHow personal brand compounding works—and why most quit too earlyWhether you're a high-level founder, a burned-out marketer, or a business owner chasing traction, this episode will shift how you think about time, value, and brand growth in 2025.This is a mindset reset for anyone who wants to build something that lasts.

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Welcome to the #1 podcast for business owners on Branding and Strategy. Join Camille Moore and Phillip Millar, two internationally recognized branding experts who help you cut through the noise, see trends first and navigate the complicated world of branding. Enjoy weekly discussions about brand disasters, industry case studies, insider secrets, marketing malpractice, and top industry guests. This is the go-to podcast for business owners and industry experts to stay relevant and cut through the noise.