Josh Mandell’s $84K Prophecy: Genius, Luck, or Something Else? We Debate

This episode is a recording of an X Space I had the pleasure of hosting on March 24th. It features a compelling debate between Kevin Brent Cook and Grain of Salt on Josh Mandell’s precise and publicly stated prediction that Bitcoin would hit $84,000 on Pi Day, March 14th. Kevin argues that many are being fooled by randomness. Grain believes Josh is simply an elite trader — and maybe even tapped into something unconventional. Memories, multiverses, time loops? Who knows. ––– Offers & Discounts ––– Get 10% off your ticket for the Bitcoin Conference 2025 in Vegas! Use the promo code MATRIX at https://tickets.b.tc/affiliate/matrix... Theya is the world’s simplest Bitcoin self-custody solution. Download Theya Now at theya.us/cedric Get up to $100 in Bitcoin on River at river.com/Matrix The best Team Bitcoin merch is at HodlersOfficial.com. Use the code Matrix for a discount on your order. Become a sponsor of the show: https://thebitcoinmatrix.com/sponsors/ ––– Get To Know Today's Guests––– Grain of Salt on X: https://x.com/gkrizek Kevin Brent Cook on X: https://x.com/voltage_cloud Joe Carlasare on X: https://x.com/JoeCarlasare Josh Mandell on X: https://x.com/JoshMandell6 ––– Socials ––– Check out our new website at https://TheBitcoinMatrix.Com Follow Cedric Youngelman on X: https://x.com/cedyoungelman Follow The Bitcoin Matrix Podcast on X: https://x.com/_bitcoinmatrix Follow Cedric Youngelman on Nostr: npub12tq9jxmt707gd5vnce3tqllpm67ktr0mqskcvy58qqa4d074pz9s4ukdcs ––– Chapters ––– 00:00 - Intro 02:30 - Kevin, Grain of Salt and Joe Carlasare's Backstories 07:30 - Discovering Probability & Mental Models in Trading 12:30 - Why Kevin Created Risk Software for the Brain 17:30 - Grain’s Bitcoin Origin Story & Full Send in 2017 22:30 - The Market Isn’t Efficient: Arbitraging Belief and Behavior 27:30 - Was Josh’s Prediction a Fluke or a Skill? 32:30 - The Power of Positioning and Mindset in Trading 37:30 - Memory, Multiverses & Numerology in Market Prediction 42:30 - The CME Gap, Sovereign FOMO & Options Mechanics 47:30 - Philosophical Clash: Rationality vs Comfort with the Unknown 52:30 - Closing Thoughts I want to take a moment to express my heartfelt gratitude to all of you for tuning in, supporting the show, and contributing. Thank you for listening!

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