How Bobbi Brown Went From Vogue Makeup Artist to Building a $160M Brand at 63

Bobbi Brown joins Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni on The Burnouts to talk building her billion-dollar beauty empire and starting over with Jones Road. She shares lessons on confidence, burnout, and reinvention—plus the viral TikTok moment that changed everything. This episode is a masterclass in beauty, business, and staying true to yourself.

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As former Stanford roommates and now business partners, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni share their experience as startup founders and the complexities of being young professionals—from financial literacy, social impact, and navigating networking (ever been hit on through LinkedIn?). With exclusive access to top experts, they offer an inside look at their chaotic lives alongside career insights from their network of thought leaders. Watch The Burnouts pursue their dreams while trying to keep their lives from going up in flames. Will they burn out? We’ll find out.