Former Xero CEO Steve Vamos says an open mind is key to navigating change

Steve Vamos' career in tech has spanned decades, starting with IBM straight out of university in the 1980’s, followed by stints at Apple, NineMSN, Microsoft, and Xero. He says that connecting with people and being open to criticism are key skills for leaders navigating through times of major change. Vamos also shares more specific advice on navigating change, having hard conversations, and the importance of character. Plus, Ben and Peter discuss why the Australian social media ban may not be a great idea. Ben's Bluesky Peter's Bluesky Reading list  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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