S14E04: Working with Heritage Scientists

Jenny and Liz talk to Dr Marysia Tarnowska about their journey into heritage science from a background in chemistry: from molecular bonds to leather deterioration! Jenny also talks to Dr Josep Grau-Bove from the Icon Heritage Science Group about how we can communicate better as both conservators and scientists. Finally, tune in for a review of ‘Soft Paint and the Care of Paintings’ from Liz! 00:01:10 From chemistry to museum adventures 00:07:35 A project is born 00:14:53 Scientific papers are an endurance sport 00:17:23 Ways into heritage science 00:19:08 Communicating with conservators 00:24:02 Reaching scientists early on 00:34:28 Museums doing research 00:40:53 Getting involved with scientists 00:43:42 University is where it’s at 00:47:13 Don’t forget about the Marsh Awards 00:48:00 Patreon shout-out 00:48:37 Interview with Dr Josep Grau-Bove 01:03:11 Review: Soft Paint and the Care of Paintings Show Notes: - Find Marysia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marysia-tarnowska/ - Follow Marysia on Twitter: https://twitter.com/supra_marysia - Blog entry by Lucia Burgio at the V&A: https://www.vam.ac.uk/blog/caring-for-our-collections/a-week-in-the-life-of-a-va-heritage-scientist-intro - Red rot (Wikipedia): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_rot - Museum of Leathercraft: https://museumofleathercraft.org/ - Leather Conservation Centre: https://leatherconservation.org/ - Institute for Creative Leather Technologies: https://www.northampton.ac.uk/research/research-institutes-and-centres/institute-for-creative-leather-technologies/ - S09E06 Leather: https://thecword.show/2021/06/02/s09e06-leather/ - ICPMS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductively_coupled_plasma_mass_spectrometry - /r/ArtConservation: https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtConservation/ - Icon Heritage Science Group: https://www.icon.org.uk/groups-and-networks/heritage-science.html - European Research Infrastructure for Heritage Science (E-RIHS): https://www.e-rihs.eu/ - MoLab: https://www.iperionhs.eu/molab/ - AHRC (Arts and Humanities Research Council): https://www.ukri.org/councils/ahrc/ - Research at Amgueddfa Cymru: https://museum.wales/research/ - Cultural Heritage Agency of the Netherlands: https://english.cultureelerfgoed.nl/ - Marsh Conservation Awards 2024: https://www.icon.org.uk/impact/the-marsh-conservation-awards.html - Dr Josep Grau-Bove at UCL: https://profiles.ucl.ac.uk/33855-josep-graubove - UCL Institute for Sustainable Heritage: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/heritage/ucl-institute-sustainable-heritage - Dr Katherine Curran at UCL: https://profiles.ucl.ac.uk/34356-katherine-curran/ - Soft Paint and the Care of Paintings book: https://archetype.co.uk/our-titles/soft-paint-and-the-care-of-paintings/?id=450 Previous ‘Working With’ episodes: - S07E04 Working With Techs: https://thecword.show/2020/05/27/s07e04-working-with-techs/ - S09E01 Working With Front of House: https://thecword.show/2021/03/24/s09e01-working-with-front-of-house/ - S10E02 Working With Curators: https://thecword.show/2021/09/29/s10e02-working-with-curators/ - S11E03 Working With Learning: https://thecword.show/2022/04/20/s11e03-working-with-learning/ - S13E04 Working With Adult Learning: https://thecword.show/2023/05/03/s13e04-working-with-adult-learning/ Support us on Patreon! http://www.patreon.com/thecword Hosted by Liz Hébert, Jenny Mathiasson, and Dr Marysia Tarnowska. Intro and outro music by DDmyzik, used under a Creative Commons Attribution license. Made available under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International license. A Wooden Dice production, 2024.

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We talk about all sorts of things from the perspective of conservation professionals, from museum trends and new technology to the big issues like pay and staying safe at work. In some museums conservation can be a bit of a naughty word but we think it ought to be celebrated!