How Does Something Unexpectedly Become of Value?

After an extensively meandering conversation, Dave and Chris construct historical fiction describing how humans could possibly come to eat a sea cucumber or accidentally make cheese for the first time. How does something so weird or stinky or strange become a delicacy? How does something that on the face of it is relatively worthless become of value? Other topics include the proper way to eat a burger, a depressing turkey club sandwich, Ta Nahisi-Coates’ ‘Black Panther’ run, ‘Armageddon’ vs. ‘Deep Impact,’ the fabled Momofuku bullshit book club, and guessing the Noma Kyoto menu. Hosts: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Producers: Sasha Ashall, Aleya Zenieris, and Gabi Marler Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Om Podcasten

Dave Chang has a few questions. Besides being the chef of the Momofuku restaurants and the creator and host of Netflix’s 'Ugly Delicious,' Dave is an avid student and fan of sports, music, art, film, and, of course, food. In ranging conversations that cover everything from the creative process to his guest’s guiltiest pleasures, Dave and a rotating cast of smart, thought-provoking guests talk about their inspirations, failures, successes, fame, and identities.